Roman Sword discovered off Oak Island radically suggests Ancient Mariners visited New World 1,000 years before Columbus

Roman Sword discovered off Oak Island radically suggests Ancient Mariners visited New World 1,000 years before Columbus

Researchers investigating the mysterious Oak Island, located on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada, have made a startling announcement regarding the discovery of a Roman ceremonial sword and what is believed to be a Roman shipwreck, radically suggesting that ancient mariners visited North America more than a thousand years before Columbus.

Evidence of the finding, which was exclusively revealed to Johnston Press and published in The Boston Standard , was uncovered by researchers involved in The History Channel’s series Curse of Oak Island , which details the efforts of two brothers from Michigan as they attempt to solve the mystery of the Oak Island treasure and discover historical artifacts believed to be concealed on the island.

J. Hutton Pulitzer, lead researcher and historic investigator, along with academics from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society, have compiled a paper on the finding, which is scheduled to be published in full in early 2016.

The Mystery of Oak Island

Oak island is home to one of the biggest treasure hunts in history , which began in in 1795, when 18-year old Daniel McGinnis saw lights coming from the island. Out of curiosity, he went searching for the lights and discovered a clearing on the southeastern end of the island. Within the clearing was a circular depression, and nearby a tackle block hung from a tree. McGinnis and several friends returned to the area and began excavating the depression. A few feet beneath the surface, they discovered a layer of flagstone, and the pit walls had markings from a pick. Approximately every ten feet (3 m) they dug, they found a layer of logs. After excavating to thirty feet beneath the surface, McGinnis and his friends abandoned the excavation without ever finding anything of significance.

Digs and Buildings, Oak Island, Nova Scotia, Canada, August 1931. ( Wikimedia Commons )

Reports of the boys’ efforts were published in several printed works. Eight years later, the Onslow Company sailed to the area to try to recover the supposed treasure, that was assumed to lie hidden at the base of the pit. Based on the written accounts of the boys, the Onslow Company attempted an excavation of what was now referred to as the “Money Pit.” However, they were eventually forced to abandon their efforts due to flooding.

Numerous searches of the pit continued over the next two centuries, but they have been continually plagued with difficulties including collapses and flooding within the pit. The entire island has been searched for treasure, and is continued today by Marty and Rick Lagina, as chronicled on Curse of Oak Island .

Startling Discovery – A Roman Sword

While most treasure hunters have ended up empty handed, a recent revelation points to an incredible, and possibly history-changing, finding. A shipwreck, believed to be Roman, was found off Oak Island, and within the wreck a well-preserved Roman ceremonial sword was retrieved.

The Roman sword found just off Oak Island. Photo courtesy of investigatinghistory.org and National Treasure Society

Pulitzer told the Boston Standard that the sword was hauled onto a fishing boat decades ago, but was kept secret because the finder and his son feared they would be punished due to strict laws in Nova Scotia regarding retrieving treasures from shipwrecks.

However, relatives of the finder, who is now deceased, recently came forward to reveal the precious sword to researchers.

Pulitzer carried out tests on the sword, using an XRF analyser, which revealed that the sword contained the same metallic properties, with traces of arsenic and lead, that match other Roman artifacts.

“The shipwreck is still there and has not been worked,” said Pulitzer [via The Boston Standard]. “We have scanned it, we know exactly where it lays, but it will be a touchy thing for the Nova Scotia government to allow an archaeological team to survey it. We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is Roman.”

A close-up of the sword found off Oak Island. Photo courtesy of investigatinghistory.org and National Treasure Society

Evidence to Support Roman Presence

In an attempt to dismiss skeptics, who may suggest the artifact had simply fallen off the side of a boat in more recent times, Pultizer and his team have dug up numerous other pieces of evidence to support the theory that the Romans made it to the New World more than 1,000 years before Christopher Columbus. These include:

  • Petroglyphs carved on cave walls and boulders in Nova Scotia by the indigenous Mi’kmaq people, which depict what Pulitzer’s team believe to be Roman soldiers marching with their swords, and Roman ships.
  • The Mi’kmaq people carry a rare DNA marker, which can be traced to the eastern Mediterranean region.
  • Fifty words in the Mi’kmaq language that are nautical terms used by mariners from Roman times.
  • An invasive species of plant (Berberis Vulgaris) growing on Oak Island and in Halifax, which was once used by Romans to season their food and prevent scurvy on their voyages.
  • A Roman legionnaire’s whistle found on Oak Island in 1901
  • A metal ‘boss’ from the center of a Roman shield found in Nova Scotia in the mid-1800s
  • Gold Roman Carthage coins found on the mainland near Oak Island
  • Two carved stones on Oak Island that Pulitzer says displays a language from the ancient Levant.

Roman shield 'boss' like the one found in Nova Scotia, representative image only (public domain)

“When you put all these things together and you look at the anomalies, it’s not a coincidence,” Pultizer told the Boston Standard. “The plants, the DNA, the artifacts, the language, the ancient drawings - you have something that deserves to be taken seriously.”

Professor Carl Johannessen, formerly of the University of Oregon, who is also involved in the research, says the findings challenge the orthodoxy of 1492 as the date when the New World was ‘discovered’.

While it has long been suggested that other ancient civilizations reached the New World before Columbus, including the Vikings, Chinese, and Greeks, this is the first set of compelling findings to suggest Roman mariners made it North America over a millennium ago.

Pultizer says it is time to rewrite the history books.

Featured image: Main: Featured image: Oak Island, Nova Scotia. Credit: Farhad Vladia / Panoramio . Inset: The Roman sword found in water just off the mysterious Oak Island, Nova Scotia. Credit: investigatinghistory.org and National Treasure Society

By: April Holloway


Roman sword and other roman artifacts found in Oak Island Nova Scotia Canada

The discovery of a Roman sword and other artifacts found in Oak Island Nova Scotia, Canada has turned archaeology and history on its head and made headlines around the globe, forcing experts to question the history of the Americas. An eyebrow-raising new report suggests that mariners arrived to the New World more than a thousand years before Columbus.

A team of scientists claim to have found evidence they believe could “rewrite the history” of America.

They say it was first discovered by the Romans.

The new study claims ancient mariners visited the New World more than a 1,000 years before Columbus set foot there.

Researchers from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society (AAPS) say a Roman sword was discovered in a shipwreck off Oak Island on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada.

The research reveals that a Roman legionnaire’s whistle, Gold Carthage coins, part of a Roman shield and a Roman head sculpture have also been found on the island.

Lead historian Jovan Hutton Pulitzer insists the haul is firm evidence the Romans landed there first and is the “single most important discovery” ever for the Americas.

“The ceremonial sword came out of that shipwreck. It is 100 per cent confirmed as Roman.

“I began my forensic work into it using an XRF analyser – which is a leading archaeological tool for analysing metals.

“And we found all these other metals that tell you this was made from ore that came directly from the ground.

“It has the same arsenic and lead signature in it. We’ve been able to test this sword against another one like it and it matches.

“Some years ago, a man and his son were scalloping off Oak Island, which sees them hang a rake-like object off the back of their boat.

“They put it under the surface and when they brought this up, the sword came up with it.

“The father kept it for decades, and when he died it went to his wife, then his daughter.

“Then when she died many years later it went to her husband. It was he who approached me and said ‘I think you should know about this and where it was found’.


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Mainstream historians usually dismiss these finds as inaccurate, claiming artefacts such as this can be dropped by collectors in modern times, according to theThe Boston Standard.

Scientists are currently unable to rule this out as a possibility, shedding doubt on these claims.

Pictured on the left is the Roman shield 'boss' found in Nova Scotia. On the right is Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, who led the research

Pulitzer's report also details a number of Mi'kmaq carved images by indigenous people drawn on cave walls in Nova Scotia. Some of these images show what Pulitzer believes to be Roman legionnaires marching (pictured)

ROMAN 'FINDS' IN OAK ISLAND

The researchers are basing their claims on a number of Roman discoveries in Oak Island .

Mainstream historians usually say such finds are inaccurate as artefacts such as this can be dropped by collectors in modern times.

As well as the stone, they found carved stones on Oak Island also 'possess a language from the ancient Levant' according to Pulitzer.

Other findings include a Roman legionnaire's whistle found on Oak Island in 1901, a Roman shield 'boss' and a small Roman head sculpture found in Mexico City in 1933.

Another clue, in his report, is the presence of an invasive species of plant which was once used by Romans.

Oak Island has been at the centre of one of the biggest treasure hunts in history, which began in in 1795.

The History Channel's series 'Curse of Oak Island' reveals how researchers are attempting to discover the island's long-held secret.

Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, who has featured on the show, has now put together a paper detailing his discovery.

The paper has been exclusively seen by Johnston Press, and was written with the help of researchers from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society.

Pulitzer claims the sword is '100 per cent confirmed' and described it as the 'smoking gun' to his theory.

'The ceremonial sword came out of that shipwreck,' he told The Boston Standard. 'It is one incredible Roman artefact.'

He bases this on studies of his the artefacts metallic properties which match those of other ancient Roman artefacts.

The researchers are basing their claims on a number of Roman discoveries in Oak Island . Mainstream historians usually say such finds are inaccurate as artefacts such as this can be dropped by collectors in modern times. This may be the case with the sword, pictured on the right

Gold Carthage coins have also been discovered on the mainland near Oak Island, according to the report

'It has the same arsenic and lead signature in it. We've been able to test this sword against another one like it and it matches,' he said.

Pulitzer's report also details a number of Mi'kmaq carved images by indigenous people drawn on cave walls in Nova Scotia.

Some of these images show what Pulitzer believes to be Roman legionnaires.

Carved stones on Oak Island also 'possess a language from the ancient Levant' according to Pulitzer.

Other findings include a Roman legionnaire's whistle found on Oak Island in 1901, a Roman shield 'boss' and a small Roman head sculpture found in Mexico City in 1933.

Gold Carthage coins have also been discovered on the mainland near Oak Island.

Another clue, in his report, is the presence of an invasive species of plant which was once used by Romans.

The team plans to publish its report early next year.

Some historians believe that it wasn't the Romans, but the Vikings that arrived before Columbus.

They point to historical documents indicating that Lief Erikson, a famous Viking explorer, discovered America first.

Oak Island is a 57-hectare island in Lunenburg County on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada. It has been at the centre of one of the biggest treasure hunts in history, which began in in 1795


Just Revealed: Roman Sword Reportedly Found Off Oak Island

Thanks to summers spent with my autodidact grandmother and the eclectic assemblage of books and periodicals in her private library, I was introduced at a young age to what is often referred to as "Fortean phenomena." The Oak Island Mystery was in fact my very first exposure. So it was with great interest that I looked forward to the airing of the The Curse of Oak Island and despite the lack of substantive discoveries and the often dubious characters who make appearances on the show, I've stuck with it.

Now it appears that an upcoming episode will feature what is alleged to be a previous find that has gone unreported and if true, would not only change the theories surrounding Oak Island but rewrite world history — which makes me highly skeptical — but nonetheless interested.


Researchers investigating the mysterious Oak Island, located on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada, have made a startling announcement regarding the discovery of a Roman ceremonial sword and what is believed to be a Roman shipwreck, radically suggesting that ancient mariners visited North America more than a thousand years before Columbus.

Evidence of the finding, which was exclusively revealed to Johnston Press and published in The Boston Standard, was uncovered by researchers involved in The History Channel’s series Curse of Oak Island, which details the efforts of two brothers from Michigan as they attempt to solve the mystery of the Oak Island treasure and discover historical artifacts believed to be concealed on the island.

J. Hutton Pulitzer, lead researcher and historic investigator, along with academics from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society, have compiled a paper on the finding, which is scheduled to be published in full in early 2016.

Let me just pause here to say that J. Hutton Pulitzer is an interesting character to say the least. Inventor of the notoriously failed barcode reader, the CueCat (which RadioShack resorted to giving away), the man who was then known by his birth name, J. Jovan Philyaw, is now a treasure hunter and author of books on "forbidden archaeology."


While most treasure hunters have ended up empty handed, a recent revelation points to an incredible, and possibly history-changing, finding. A shipwreck, believed to be Roman, was found off Oak Island, and within the wreck a well-preserved Roman ceremonial sword was retrieved.

Pulitzer told the Boston Standard that the sword was hauled onto a fishing boat decades ago, but was kept secret because the finder and his son feared they would be punished due to strict laws in Nova Scotia regarding retrieving treasures from shipwrecks.

However, relatives of the finder, who is now deceased, recently came forward to reveal the precious sword to researchers.
Pulitzer carried out tests on the sword, using an XRF analyser, which revealed that the sword contained the same metallic properties, with traces of arsenic and lead, that match other Roman artifacts.

According to Pulitzer, the wreck has been located and scanned and though not properly surveyed, he's certain beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it's definitely Roman. The article also mentions the involvement of Dr. Carl L. Johannessen, Professor Emeritus, University of Oregon (who has a MA in zoology and a PhD in geography).

Other alleged evidence in support of this Roman hypothesis:

I'm no expert in metallurgy or marine archaeology (or Roman antiquities or really much of anything non-IT related

) but that sword looks awfully well preserved for supposedly having sat on the bottom of the ocean for 1500 years or so.

Wow, astonishing find. It certainly provides possible evidence of another pre-Columbus visit in N. America.


Also interesting that it was found on Oak Island, where there have also been Viking artifacts found.

A roman ship sailing around Oak Island, Nova Scotia wayyy back when. Now THAT'S cool

Look's to have been a highly decorative item, I doubt it got there via the Roman's themselves but could have come via trade as a valuable item, maybe even early Nordic or even as many suspect Phoenician traders.

Still it is one of the most enigmatic sites in the US and who knows just maybe after all most of the documents that the Romans had were lost with the end of there empire and Columbus must have gained his claimed portolon's from somewhere if indeed he did have portolon's showing land to the west so maybe some roman expedition had reached that far it is conceivable though there ship's would have struggled in the Atlantic seas so the voyage would have been extremely treacherous, still they based them on Carthaginian vessels and there is claim the Carthaginians may have reached America over two thousand years ago so?.

This is a very interesting find. I've always been intrigued by the Oak Island mystery, and believe that the area will produce something that is more than the rumors surrounding it.

Although involvement at Oak Island is interesting in itself, the overall concept of ancient voyages to America should not be all that surprising. Many cultures of the past produced competent mariners capable of ocean voyages. The Romans, Phoenicians, Chinese, etc., were all probably here at one time or another. Some of them crashed here permanently. Some of them may have made it back and proclaimed, "We found this land out west" to responses of "Meh?" In other cases there may have been some active trade between Africa and South America, for example.

One big problem with finds like this is provenance. Did a Roman expedition actually drop this sword on Oak Island in 50 BC while on a voyage of discovery? Or did the Templars bring it along with them in 1307 as part of their treasure? Hard to say without corroborative evidence so best not to jump to conclusions about who brought it when.

I've read that somewhere, too, but in that story it was the Romans. Is there any evidence for this, though? Where's the proof for this contention?

Thanks for posting. I too was taken in by Oak Island and the mystery that surrounds it. Do you know approximately how far away the shipwreck (where the sword was found), is from the island?

First, I want to preface that I am no expert, yet I do have a decent background in archeology:

My first thought is that it is too ornate to be Roman.

Here is a link to a site on real Roman sword artifacts.

One thing that you already noted, which can be seen in a comparison is that the artifact from the site has a lot more wear on it and age damage.

HereAdded this site, shows almost all the swords archeologist have found from the roman time period. Nothing on that site looks like the sword either. I just don't think it can reliably be called a roman artifact.

A sword like that looks Celtic or perhaps even Viking in origin, which would fit with the real history of Oak Island.

Interesting story, thanks for posting. I would like to see if this really has any validity to it.

I wish they'd kick this series into high gear ffs

Good show but all they do is talk for the most part.

This is sweet with a capital ATS.

I'm a believer in what I call the 'Bering straight Hypothesis' where the seas froze after the ice age and allowed for easier travel That might explain stories about how some artifacts found off the California coast appear to be of Chinese origin. But a roman in a pre Coloumbus America? a tad hard to swallow but I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm sure the Canadian government is trying to decide whether to throw the family in jail or confiscate their worldly possessions. (That's a joke, maybe a half truth

At least the local government backed off of their "renegotiations" and allowed the excavation to continue.

Very interesting indeed! S&F

Could there have been other "ritualistic" or showpiece Roman swords that were used for ceremonies/decoration? Or could it be the sword from someone of a higher rank/class?

That could explain it - the handle appears to have a person/figure on it.

That was one of the frist things I looked for and it seems Romans spent more time decorating the sheath of the sword and not its hilt(Check my second link in 1st post). Roman's even in decorative weapons, keep the hilt practical.

Decorative hafts(handles) are more common with the Celtic tradition of decorative swords.

Still, this is a cool artifact. Can't wait till a real expert does some credible test on the weapon.

My big hope is that it is not a total fake.

Super long time lurker.
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I've been a follower of oak island for 40 years
never did I think of the Romans being there.

it would seems to me now that the Romans may, may have. Then perhaps the tree and pit where actually the result of someone getting the treasure out. Thus tripping the booby traps.

As a child in the 1920s my dad lived in the Northwest Wisconsin. He found a very old Roman or Roman style coin. I can't find it now. He got it while plowing.

The sword itself proves nothing, as it has been removed from its alleged location destroying its provenance there is no way of knowing, if it came from there, or was purchased to make it look as if it came from there, no amount of tests proving it to be a genuine sword can now help with its credibility. I think its rather convenient that its finder has since died.

However, the claim that there is a Roman ship needs investigating it, if true it would rewrite history.
But from what I can see, the only person claiming "Roman ship" is the long dead fisherman, who didn't know anything about Roman ships or swords.
I don't think they will find the ship, so they're going to make all the claims based on a sword which will be meaningless to veracity, but might sell a few more TV episodes
But having a professor of geography along for credibility is hardly useful.

This claim of Hutton Pulitzer stinks of BS

“The shipwreck is still there and has not been worked,” said Pulitzer. “We have scanned it, we know exactly where it lays, but it will be a touchy thing for the Nova Scotia government to allow an archaeological team to survey it. We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is Roman.

They have scanned it, presumably with side scan sonar, which is the last tool in the world which would reveal a ships identity and in the latter part of the quote, he's already formulating an excuse as to why they will be unable to ever dive on it. Because the government won't let them. So I'm calling shenanigans on this
Made up bull# based on a sword which was most likely purchased on the antiquities market

J. Hutton Pulitzer, formerly known as Jeffry Jovan Philyaw, is a fraud and a failure at everything he has done in the past. He makes up extraordinary claims with little to no evidence to back them up.

He was recently on History Channels "The Curse of Oak Island" and, based on his ridiculous performance and the nonsense he spewed, was asked to leave and not return.

Even Scott Wolter, from "America Unearthed" doesn't particularly like him or his theories.

That and the guy just gives me the creeps. Something about him just isn't "right".

Having said that, I am open minded enough to wait and see what this supposed "white paper" he is publishing actually says and what evidence he presents to back up his theories. I do believe that the New World was discovered long before Columbus, perhaps even by the Romans or the Greeks.

Almost Everybody was here before Columbus. Where do you think the abundance of copper was coming from for all those countries. Why are there so many types of Indians here in the USA? Where did the Indians come from, not over the land bridge. Look up the history of the Lenope Indians. They were not from here, they came over the ice from greenland to settle where their relatives lived. Where did their relatives come from, ships of course that settled the Eastern shores and traded with the Indians.

The Ojibwa have genetics from the Gaza Mountains, how did they get here. There were even farmers already settled here in America when the settlers came on in, coming down from Canada. Our whole history is a mess of lies made to make claim to this continent. The Indians spoke old English in vermont, a version generations removed from the old English language.
this is in the history documents of this country.

The English layed claim to the area of the US because they went to court to prove that some of those in their commonwealth had settled there years before. It was the Norwegians who were here long before Columbus and the Old English actually moved to Norway after a natural catastrophe around 600 AD. So the Old English were here also. The Old English were a different people than the anglo-saxons who conquered the sparcly populated England after the place was destroyed. That is in ancient records too. If people actually search for these records before believing what the victors history says, they would find they exist.

Why is it that Columbus discovered America? Because some people of the colonial times who wanted to break away from England, most regular people did not really care. they paid taxes either way. they decided to change history back to Columbus discovering America because Spain was helping them fight the English. The English took Spain to court when they said they discovered America and the international court ruled that England's Norway had rights to it and colonized it very long before. Yes, there are records of this also. So we went to war with Spain after they helped us get away from England. Our forefathers were some unloyal people I guess.

Whoever is the victor makes the history. Oh well, they will have Columbus discovering America in our history books for another twenty years I suppose and Columbus day as a paid holiday as a reward for believing in that deception. We are taught it is rewarding to believe in lies from a young age. Santa, the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, Politicians, etc.

Once again Marduk nails it.

The dagger is all but useless unless you find a matching one or similar in the wreck. Same with alot of the findings, you can drop something you bought out of your pocket and claim to find it all day. You need archaeological context.

The bronze sword shaped object definately looks celtic with the pareidolic hilt. Single cast bronzes are celtic through and through, but Ive seen roman bitz that are similar single cast bronzes, but the figure on the handle was not symetrical

Uh, I'm with you I've been following the COI with great interest.

Not anymore. With the last episode and the half baked nut job claiming that Aztec treasure was buried on Oak Island, I gave up.

There's nothing buried on Oak Island there's no Roman ship wreck and the sword, even if real was planted in the vicinity or some crackpot bought it on the black market and is pedling it from fame.

The real problem with Nova Scotia and that whole area is that those people have absolutely nothing to do except fish and farm 3 months they can. The rest of the time their drunk and make up wild stories about Roslyn Chapel and the Aztecs.


Roman Sword discovered off Oak Island radically suggests Ancient Mariners visited New World 1,000 years before Columbus - History

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Roman Sword discovered off Oak Island radically suggests Ancient Mariners visited New World 1,000 years before Columbus

Researchers investigating the mysterious Oak Island, located on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada, have made a startling announcement regarding the discovery of a Roman ceremonial sword and what is believed to be a Roman shipwreck, radically suggesting that ancient mariners visited North America more than a thousand years before Columbus.

Evidence of the finding, which was exclusively revealed to Johnston Press and published in The Boston Standard, was uncovered by researchers involved in The History Channel’s series Curse of Oak Island, which details the efforts of two brothers from Michigan as they attempt to solve the mystery of the Oak Island treasure and discover historical artifacts believed to be concealed on the island.

J. Hutton Pulitzer, lead researcher and historic investigator, along with academics from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society, have compiled a paper on the finding, which is scheduled to be published in full in early 2016.

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Evidence to Support Roman Presence

In an attempt to dismiss skeptics, who may suggest the artifact had simply fallen off the side of a boat in more recent times, Pultizer and his team have dug up numerous other pieces of evidence to support the theory that the Romans made it to the New World more than 1,000 years before Christopher Columbus. These include:

Petroglyphs carved on cave walls and boulders in Nova Scotia by the indigenous Mi’kmaq people, which depict what Pulitzer’s team believe to be Roman soldiers marching with their swords, and Roman ships.
Fifty words in the Mi’kmaq language that are nautical terms used by mariners from Roman times.
An invasive species of plant (Berberis Vulgaris) growing on Oak Island and in Halifax, which was once used by Romans to season their food and prevent scurvy on their voyages.
A Roman legionnaire’s whistle found on Oak Island in 1901
A metal ‘boss’ from the center of a Roman shield found in Nova Scotia in the mid-1800s
Gold Roman Carthage coins found on the mainland near Oak Island
Two carved stones on Oak Island that Pulitzer says displays a language from the ancient Levant.


Sword discovered off Nova Scotia’s Oak Island questions history of Americas

An ancient artifact discovered near Nova Scotia’s Oak Island is forcing experts to question the history of the Americas. An eyebrow-raising new report suggests that mariners arrived to the New World more than a thousand years before Columbus.

Researchers who’ve explored the island – rife with mystery thanks to a 230ft deep booby-trapped shaft known as the ‘money pit’ - claim to have found evidence that Roman ships arrived to North American during the first century or earlier, way ahead of Columbus’ arrival in 1492.

The discoveries have been documented on the TV show ‘Curse of Oak Island.’

J. Hutton Pulitzer, a historic investigator, claims to have evidence of a Roman sword that was discovered submerged near the island, which is believed to be a Roman shipwreck. He says the ancient weapon is the “smoking gun” to his theory.

“The ceremonial sword came out of that shipwreck,” he said. “It is one incredible Roman artifact.”

He explains that the discovery came about after a father and son were scalloping off Oak Island. The father kept the sword for decades, and passed it along to his wife when he died. It was then passed along to her daughter, who gave it to her husband, who eventually brought it forward to researchers.

Pulitzer says the complex metallic properties of the ancient weapon match those of other ancient Roman artifacts.

“The shipwreck is still there and has not been worked,” said Pulitzer. “We have scanned it, we know exactly where it lays, but it will be a touchy thing for the Nova Scotia government to allow an archaeological team to survey it. We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is Roman.”

He acknowledges that it would be a huge undertaking to re-write history, but that shouldn’t be a deterrent.

“I think anything that challenges history is very risky, very dangerous and extremely political,” he said. “But I think the world has matured and history may force politics to mature.”


Historians claim America was discovered by Romans NOT Christopher Columbus with evidence which could 'rewrite US history'

A team of historians claims to have unearthed evidence which could "rewrite the history" of the USA by proving it was discovered by the Romans - NOT Christopher Columbus .

The new study claims to reveal ancient mariners visited the New World more than a thousand years before Columbus set foot there.

Academics from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society (AAPS) say a Roman sword was discovered in a shipwreck off Oak Island on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada.

The research reveals that a Roman legionnaire&aposs whistle, Gold Carthage coins, part of a Roman shield and a Roman head sculpture have also been found on the island.

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Accepted historical fact states that Columbus was the first non-indigenous person to arrive in the continent when he landed in the Bahamas in 1492.

But lead historian Jovan Hutton Pulitzer insists the haul is firm evidence the Romans landed there first and is the "single most important discovery" ever for the Americas.

He said: "The ceremonial sword came out of that shipwreck.

"It is 100 per cent confirmed as Roman.

"I began my forensic work into it using an XRF analyser - which is a leading archaeological tool for analysing metals.

"And we found all these other metals that tell you this was made from ore that came directly from the ground.

"It has the same arsenic and lead signature in it. We&aposve been able to test this sword against another one like it and it matches.

"Some years ago, a man and his son were scalloping off Oak Island, which sees them hang a rake-like object off the back of their boat.

"They put it under the surface and when they brought this up, the sword came up with it.

"The father kept it for decades, and when he died it went to his wife, then his daughter.

"Then when she died many years later it went to her husband. It was he who approached me and said &aposI think you should know about this and where it was found&apos.

"The shipwreck is still there and has not been worked.

"We have scanned it, we know exactly where it lays, but it will be a touchy thing for the Canadian Government to allow an archaeological team to survey it.

"We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is Roman.

"I think this is the single most important discovery for the Americas - an event that will re-write history.

"This is a gunshot to be heard around the world. It changes all of our history.

"The knee-jerk reaction to something like this is to think somebody put that sword there.

"It was found incredibly close to Oak Island in water only 25ft deep. But if you dropped that rare collectors&apos sword overboard, wouldn&apost you dive down to get it?"

Oak Island is a privately-owned 57-hectare island in Lunenburg County on the south shore of Nova Scotia.

It has been at the centre of one of the biggest treasure hunts in history, which began in in 1795 centring on the infamous &aposMoney Pit&apos - a 230ft booby-trapped shaft which is thought to contain valuable artifacts.

Since 1795, six treasure hunters have lost their lives trying to excavate the pit.

Mr Pulitzer thinks theories like his are too readily dismissed because they do not conform with traditionally held religious and political beliefs.

He added: "We have absolutely been lead to believe that nothing happened on this side of the pond before Christopher Columbus.

"That&aposs a church-induced concept. All the ancient records that exist make it very clear the world was circumnavigated and the world was round.

"But when the Catholic Church and the Romans came in, all those records were destroyed - so we had to kind of re-learn this stuff.

"History is political on our side of the pond. There&aposs been so much politicising of who is native, and what was the first nation, that when discoveries come about that change this, it&aposs wildly controversial.

"The problem is, to rewrite history it would mean rewriting every textbook and university course in the world.

"That&aposs the detriment. I think anything that challenges history is very risky, very dangerous and extremely political.

"But I think the world has matured and history may force politics to mature.

"I think we should all fight for the truth and people should make up their own minds."

Pulitzer&aposs report also details a number of Mi&aposkmaq carved images by indigenous people drawn on cave walls in Nova Scotia.

Some of these images show what Pulitzer believes to be Roman legionnaires.

Mr Pulitzer - who has appeared on the History Channel&aposs series &aposCurse of Oak Island&apos -added: "There are also 50 words in the Mi&aposkmaq language.

"These are ancient nautical sailing terms used by ancient mariners from Roman times - but they were not a seafaring culture.

"Another very interesting &aposcoincidence&apos is a bush on Oak Island and one on the mainland which is listed in Canada as an invasive species called Berberis Vulgaris.

"This was used by ancient mariners, including Romans, to season their food and fight scurvy.

"It grows in Oak Island and across the way in Halifax. All these things, signs and symbols add up to more than just coincidence."

Pulitzer&aposs team also believe to have found ancient burial mounds sited in shallow water close to the western shoreline of Oak Island.

Professor James Scherz, from the University of Wisconsin, says in the report: "These mounds are consistent with ancient European and Levant burial mounds, not native American.

"I am in agreement the underwater mounds being of a foreign ancient mariner style and not native to Nova Scotia or traditional North American.

"These mounds, in looking at the known ocean levels for the area, give a possible date of occurring between 1500BC and 180AD."


Ancient sword artifact may prove Romans did discover America:

You need to take on board the phenomenom of Blue Willow pattern. I have dug in fields and gardens the length and breadth of Britain and never failed to find Blue Willow pattern pottery. I have dug in fields in Brittany and found Blu Willow Pattern. Ergo.
THe earth is more liquid than we think and stuff just drifts about underground.

We have been searching for the body pits from Flodden and not found them. Then, on this forum, 150,000 skeletons turn up in Holland for no apparent reason. Scots from Flodden whose remains have 'floated' to Holland.

Move over Newton and Frank Einstein. A Geo/Archaeological start is born!

KillCarneyKlansman

I know I have not been around for a while . hey all . I am still in the background sometimes .
but this Oak Island find is going to change history as we know it from here on out .. for a long time
ancients have been traveling to these areas . Nova Scotia has been virtually off limits to shipwreak
hunters for ages . the smithsonian and other institue's have guarded and hidden America's past .
It is quite natural for many explorers from the Old World to travel here, over many different centuries
. the fact that the ancients of the classic world were actually on the shores of America and had a
long known contact with them will soon be proved . When Barry Fell wrote America BC I was amazed .
now I can finally breath a shy of relief . I heard this on earth ancients, a radio podcast on stitcher
radio with Randall Carlsen . who was on later as the main guest . who was explaining geological
features of America related to the last ice age(s) . which was done in conjunction Graham Hancock's
book "Magicians of the Gods" who has basically turned the "out of africa theory" on it's head . In
short, authors like Micheal Cremo and now Graham Hancock's groundbreaking work has proved that advanced
systems of technological skill had to be used to build megalith's of pre-history such as Gobeki-Tepe

Articles such as these, suggest humaniods left africa much earlier . and then (very possibly) migrated back to africa
The human skull that challenges the Out of Africa theory | Ancient Origins
Recently, Professor C.G. Nicholas Mascie-Taylor of the University of Cambridge sent a letter to the Ministry of Culture in Greece saying that the correct date of the skull is 700,000 years old and not 300,000. He has also challenged the government’s suppression of information regarding this incredible discovery.
Read more: The human skull that challenges the Out of Africa theory | Ancient Origins

Roman Sword Found Near Oak Island, Nova Scotia May ?Rewrite? North American History [Updated]
An ancient Roman sword discovered off the coast near Oak Island, Nova Scotia is being hailed by Carl L. Johannessen, Professor Emeritus with the University of Oregon, as a find that is set to “challenge the orthodoxy of 1492 as the date when the New World was ‘discovered,'” according to Boston Standard.

Professor James P. Scherz with the University of Wisconsin was quoted with regard to underwater burial mounds located off the shore of Nova Scotia, close to Oak Island, that may be connected.

“I am in agreement the underwater mounds being of a foreign (ancient mariner style) and not native to Nova Scotia or traditional North American. These mounds, in looking at the known ocean levels for the area, give a possible date of occurring between 1500 BC and 180 AD.”

“When you put all these things together and you look at the anomalies, it’s not a coincidence,” J. Hutton Pulitzer summarized. “The plants, the DNA, the artifacts, the language, the ancient drawings – you have something that deserves to be taken seriously.”

Startling new report on Oak Island could ?rewrite history? of the Americas - Boston Standard
In an attempt to demonstrate the Roman sword and shipwreck are more than mere coincidence, Pultizer and his team examined the area around Nova Scotia, alongside archaeological records to see if there were any other ‘coincidences’. They looked at the indigenous natives of Nova Scotia - the Mi’kmaq people - who are believed to have lived on their ancestral lands for more than 8,000 years.

Pulitzer said: “The Mi’kmaq [micmac] carry the rarest DNA marker in the world which comes from the ancient Levant (the eastern Mediterranean). You can’t screw with DNA.”
Read more: Startling new report on Oak Island could ?rewrite history? of the Americas - Boston Standard

- Earth Ancient Past
In an attempt to dismiss skeptics, who may suggest the artifact had simply fallen off the side of a boat in more recent times, Pultizer and his team have dug up numerous other pieces of evidence to support the theory that the Romans made it to the New World more than 1,000 years before Christopher Columbus. These include:
Petroglyphs carved on cave walls and boulders in Nova Scotia by the indigenous Mi’kmaq people, which depict what Pulitzer’s team believe to be Roman soldiers marching with their swords, and Roman ships.
The Mi’kmaq people carry a rare DNA marker, which can be traced to the eastern Mediterranean region.
Fifty words in the Mi’kmaq language that are nautical terms used by mariners from Roman times.
An invasive species of plant (Berberis Vulgaris) growing on Oak Island and in Halifax, which was once used by Romans to season their food and prevent scurvy on their voyages.
A Roman legionnaire’s whistle found on Oak Island in 1901
A metal ‘boss’ from the center of a Roman shield found in Nova Scotia in the mid-1800s
Gold Roman Carthage coins found on the mainland near Oak Island
Two carved stones on Oak Island that Pulitzer says displays a language from the ancient Levant.
Read more: Roman Sword discovered off Oak Island radically suggests Ancient Mariners visited New World 1,000 years before Columbus | Ancient Origins

Einharja

Matthew Amt

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but can't resist cherry-picking a few bits. My apologies.

Maybe you missed the bit where it was pointed out that this "sword" is a modern decorator piece, with no relation to any ancient sword whatsoever? And that if it *were* Roman, it would be a meaningless stray find?

And anyone who knows ancient ships and seafaring, and has actually sailed on accurate replicas, will tell you that's complete bunk.

So was I! It seemed impossible that so much stupidity and silliness could fit between 2 covers!

(Sorry, I had to add in my own little ". ")

I can refute or challenge most of these, but why not just use a comment posted on that very page?

I can add that since legionaries didn't carry whistles before the HBO "Rome" series came out, the whistle found on Oak Island is probably late 19th century.

The shield boss is cool! Looks Roman to me. And completely unstratified, so it may very well have come from any modern collection. Probably did, in fact, knowing what we do now about the "sword".

Call me a government covert agent, sworn to hide the all-too-incredible truth, but this whole circus is ridiculous.

Matthew Amt

Never seen any iron sword remotely like that, either! Got a photo of the original? Not trying to be facetious, either! New stuff is cool! Pictures, though, please, or it doesn't exist.

Lucius

The Romans were in the British Isles. The Vikings were in the British Isles. Maybe a Viking found the sword in some ruins somehow and reckoned it was a cool shank and kept it and got on his boat and got shipwrecked on Nova Scotia with it.

But yeah it's usually just some kids messin' around.

KillCarneyKlansman

Minus the sword . and not going into the money pit, on Oak Isle . as well as, the controversy, as reported by most of the press

Magicians of the Gods: The Forgotten Wisdom of Earth's Lost Civilization | Ancient Origins
In essence, what Magicians of the Gods does very effectively is relay a somewhat chilling message, this being that there is now undisputable scientific evidence for a terrible catastrophe that befell humanity around 12,800 years ago. It was most likely caused when large fragments of a comet impacted with the earth and obliterated an existing global civilization. As a consequence of this cataclysm the northern hemisphere was plunged into a mini ice age known as the Younger Dryas event, which lasted 1,200 years. At its culmination, around 9600 BC, the remaining members of the human race were left like children with amnesia, having to start all over again without any meaningful knowledge of their past.
Read more: Magicians of the Gods: The Forgotten Wisdom of Earth's Lost Civilization | Ancient Origins

GRAHAM HANCOCK argues that a cosmic explosion will soon strike Earth | Daily Mail Online
. look back at the tumultuous epoch between 10,800 BC and 9,600 BC, which geologists call the &#8216Younger Dryas&#8217. This was a time of extraordinary shifts in the world&#8217s climate. But the most devastating change of all came when the ice caps suddenly collapsed, dumping all the water they contained into the oceans and unleashing a tsunami that swept across continents.

Ojibwa, people of the Canadian grasslands whose legend seems the most credible, almost scientific . remember a comet called Long-Tailed Heavenly Climbing Star which swept low through the skies, scorching the Earth and leaving behind &#8216a different world. After that, survival was hard work. The weather was colder than before.

four objects more than a mile across, smashed into the Cordilleran and Laurentide ice caps covering northern America in 10,800 BC. The heat of these monster meteorites melted the ice. But they also threw vast clouds of dust and sooty smoke into the upper atmosphere, blotting out the sun. That sent temperatures plunging across the Earth and initiated a new Ice Age that lasted 1,200 years. This is not mere speculation and hypothesis. In September 2014, the Journal Of Geology presented a mass of evidence confirming the copious presence of so-called nanodiamonds in samples from the Younger Dryas boundary layer.

Now, Graham Hancock . is far from perfect . and this article, though a bit jaded . is of the mindset like you Matthew, a SKEPTIC . which is okay, cause I can sharpen my blade on it too

Magicians of the Gods Review - Jason Colavito
The long and short of it, is that the comet hypothesis, if accepted, would argue that the onset of the Younger Dryas (the last ice age) occurred suddenly and catastrophically due to the comet, and it may have ended as quickly a thousand years later as the result of another impact

Approximately a year before the Meteor Hit Russia on February 15, 2013 . I was saying that with the appearance of comets . it was often precluded by other celestial type events, as well as after . like I said this was far and few between . vague references to ancient peoples being wiped out by the breath or nostril's of the gods . by October of 2012 I had virtually disappeared from historum

Memprhemagog
Diaz and Magellan also had maps showing their "discoveries" in advance. I have quoted their navigators in several books, such as the Portuguese pilot, Pigafetta, who referred to Magellan's chart showing the "Strait of Magellan" before the fleet left Iberia. Unconventional historians wonder where these maps came from, while conventional academics simply ignore all of the references to them. But such "pre-Columbus" maps of the Americas have now been recovered by modern researchers and they show that land across the Atlantic from Europe was known as early as AD 1398. or even as early as AD 1360, and were mentioned by the Arabic cartographer Abulfeda in AD 1250. These maps, which seem to be so similar that they might have been copied from just one original, also clearly show that this transatlantic land was not Asia.

American historian Frederick Pohl had first brought this coat-of-arms to popular notice in his book Prince Henry Sinclair in which he argued that this Scottish-Scandinavian nobleman (AD 1345-1400) had actually &#8220discovered&#8221 North America in 1398 &#8211 ninety-four years before Christopher Columbus and ninety-nine years before John Cabot.

Quoting an obscure medieval document known as &#8220The Zeno Narrative&#8221, thought to have been composed about AD 1400 by a Venetian navigator in Sinclair&#8217s service, Pohl presented geographic evidence that the settlement Sinclair is said to have established in &#8220Estotiland&#8221 had been in Nova Scotia. Actually, a University of Michigan geologist, William Herbert Hobbs, had previously argued the same thing in the January 1951 issue of the prestigious Scientific Monthly, but Frederick Pohl brought this obscure episode of history to more general knowledge

Did the Phoenicians Discover the New World?
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/vista/9606/4.html
Working with computer-enhanced images of gold coins minted in the North African city of Carthage between 350 and 320 BC, McMenamin has interpreted a series of designs appearing on these coins, the meaning of which has long puzzled scholars. McMenamin believes that the designs represent a map of the ancient world, including the area surrounding the Mediterranean Sea and a land mass representing the Americas.

If this is true, these coins not only represent the oldest world maps found to date, but would also indicate that Carthaginian explorers had sailed to the New World a good 1,300 years before the Vikings.

It was his interest in the Carthaginians and Phoenicians as explorers that led McMenamin to study the gold coins, known as staters. The Carthaginians were closely linked to the Phoenicians of the Middle East in terms of culture, language, and naval enterprise. Both peoples are widely credited with significant sailing exploits through the Mediterranean, to the British Isles, and along the coast of Africa.

On one of the coins studied by McMenamin, a horse stands atop a number of symbols at the bottom of the stater. For many years, scholars interpreted these symbols as letters in Phoenician script. When that theory was discounted in the 1960s, scholars were baffled. Using a computer to enlarge and enhance these images on the coins, the geologist --aided by his familiarity with land masses and shifting tectonic plates-- was able to interpret the design as a representation of the Mediterranean, surrounded by the land masses of Europe and Africa with, to the upper left, the British Isles. To the far left of the representation of the Mediterranean is what the geologist believes is a depiction of the Americas.

A number of classical texts bolster this theory. For example, in the first century BC, Diodorus of Sicily wrote " . in the deep off Africa is an island of considerable size . fruitful, much of it mountainous . Through it flow navigable rivers. . The Phoenicians had discovered it by accident after having planted many colonies throughout Africa."

Chemical provenance of pre- to post-contact period copper and copper-rich alloy artifacts from archaeological sites in Nova Scotia, Canada : a laser ablation ICP-MS study
Copper had cultural significance to the Mi&#8217kmaq peoples of the Maritimes, and was used in the fabrication of tools and personal, ceremonial, gift, and trade wares . In this study, LA-ICP-MS was used to characterize the trace elemental composition of artifacts from archaeological sites in Nova Scotia ranging from Early Woodland (2500-2400BP) to Protohistoric (450-350 BP) to European contact (1500+BP) periods in age, and samples of natural copper from potential sources with goals of: (i) differentiating artifacts derived from natural copper from those made from synthetic (refined) European (trade) copper and its alloys, and (ii) identifying the specific natural sources of copper that were exploited.

analysis of 57 artifacts identified 10 compositional groupings . Three groups have definitive provenance determined: six artifacts from Cap d&#8217Or, Nova Scotia (natural Cu), six from Margaretsville, Nova Scotia (natural Cu), and nine artifacts of European origin (refined Cu or Cu-Zn-Sn alloys).

Just Genesis : A Kindling of Ancient Memory
"We are called MicMac now but early we were called the Beothique by the French and Beothuck by the English. Our people are said to be extinct, but we just left when the shooting started. A few 100 French did not wipe out 10,000&#8217s of natives. It is said we migrated in 2 waves to Nova Scotia and Labrador."

Sea'Kay reports that according to the oral tradition of his people, they came in two waves from the Middle East to Scandinavia, then to Greenland and to the Hudson Bay area of Eastern Canada. This places him in haplogroup X2b5. This is a different route of migration than for the first peoples of North America whose ancestors came across Eurasia and the Bering Strait.

According to Sea'Key, the MicMac did not come that way. They came along the coastal route through the British Isles to Finland and Greenland and on to Labrador and the eastern seaboard of Canada.

The genetic sequences of haplogroup X diverged from haplogroup N which originated in the region of the Lower Nile. Haplogroup X diverged further about 30,000 years ago with two sub-groups X1 and X2 now identified. Overall haplogroup X accounts for about 2% of the population of Europe, the Near East, and North Africa.

Sub-group X1 is restricted to North and East Africa, and also the Near East. Sub-group X2 appears to have undergone population expansion and dispersal after the last glacial maximum, between 21,000 and 18,000 years ago. Sub-group X1 is more strongly present in the Near East, the Caucasus, and Mediterranean Europe. There are concentrations of sub-group X2 in Georgia (8%), the Orkney Islands (7%) and amongst the Israeli Druze (27%), most of whom live in Galilee.

This is how Sea&#8217Key describes his people: "We have beards and green eyes and we are very tall, between 6&#8217 and 6&#82176&#8221."

Meso American Missionaries - Historum - History Forums
The Phoenicians - Their Past and Legacy - Historum - History Forums
As one great scholar said . I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but can't resist cherry-picking a few bits. My apologies.

I am no troll . I may have been away for a few years . but, that doesn't mean I am a newb or dead. and anyone who has read my posts . know I am serious, and very hard to refute, well thought out . well, this is all the time I have for now on this subject and for a while longer, probably, anyways


Just Revealed: Roman Sword Reportedly Found Off Oak Island

Thanks to summers spent with my autodidact grandmother and the eclectic assemblage of books and periodicals in her private library, I was introduced at a young age to what is often referred to as "Fortean phenomena." The Oak Island Mystery was in fact my very first exposure. So it was with great interest that I looked forward to the airing of the The Curse of Oak Island and despite the lack of substantive discoveries and the often dubious characters who make appearances on the show, I've stuck with it.

Now it appears that an upcoming episode will feature what is alleged to be a previous find that has gone unreported and if true, would not only change the theories surrounding Oak Island but rewrite world history — which makes me highly skeptical — but nonetheless interested.


Researchers investigating the mysterious Oak Island, located on the south shore of Nova Scotia, Canada, have made a startling announcement regarding the discovery of a Roman ceremonial sword and what is believed to be a Roman shipwreck, radically suggesting that ancient mariners visited North America more than a thousand years before Columbus.

Evidence of the finding, which was exclusively revealed to Johnston Press and published in The Boston Standard, was uncovered by researchers involved in The History Channel’s series Curse of Oak Island, which details the efforts of two brothers from Michigan as they attempt to solve the mystery of the Oak Island treasure and discover historical artifacts believed to be concealed on the island.

J. Hutton Pulitzer, lead researcher and historic investigator, along with academics from the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society, have compiled a paper on the finding, which is scheduled to be published in full in early 2016.

Let me just pause here to say that J. Hutton Pulitzer is an interesting character to say the least. Inventor of the notoriously failed barcode reader, the CueCat (which RadioShack resorted to giving away), the man who was then known by his birth name, J. Jovan Philyaw, is now a treasure hunter and author of books on "forbidden archaeology."


While most treasure hunters have ended up empty handed, a recent revelation points to an incredible, and possibly history-changing, finding. A shipwreck, believed to be Roman, was found off Oak Island, and within the wreck a well-preserved Roman ceremonial sword was retrieved.

Pulitzer told the Boston Standard that the sword was hauled onto a fishing boat decades ago, but was kept secret because the finder and his son feared they would be punished due to strict laws in Nova Scotia regarding retrieving treasures from shipwrecks.

However, relatives of the finder, who is now deceased, recently came forward to reveal the precious sword to researchers.
Pulitzer carried out tests on the sword, using an XRF analyser, which revealed that the sword contained the same metallic properties, with traces of arsenic and lead, that match other Roman artifacts.

According to Pulitzer, the wreck has been located and scanned and though not properly surveyed, he's certain beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it's definitely Roman. The article also mentions the involvement of Dr. Carl L. Johannessen, Professor Emeritus, University of Oregon (who has a MA in zoology and a PhD in geography).

Other alleged evidence in support of this Roman hypothesis:

I'm no expert in metallurgy or marine archaeology (or Roman antiquities or really much of anything non-IT related

) but that sword looks awfully well preserved for supposedly having sat on the bottom of the ocean for 1500 years or so.

Wow, astonishing find. It certainly provides possible evidence of another pre-Columbus visit in N. America.


Also interesting that it was found on Oak Island, where there have also been Viking artifacts found.

A roman ship sailing around Oak Island, Nova Scotia wayyy back when. Now THAT'S cool

Look's to have been a highly decorative item, I doubt it got there via the Roman's themselves but could have come via trade as a valuable item, maybe even early Nordic or even as many suspect Phoenician traders.

Still it is one of the most enigmatic sites in the US and who knows just maybe after all most of the documents that the Romans had were lost with the end of there empire and Columbus must have gained his claimed portolon's from somewhere if indeed he did have portolon's showing land to the west so maybe some roman expedition had reached that far it is conceivable though there ship's would have struggled in the Atlantic seas so the voyage would have been extremely treacherous, still they based them on Carthaginian vessels and there is claim the Carthaginians may have reached America over two thousand years ago so?.

This is a very interesting find. I've always been intrigued by the Oak Island mystery, and believe that the area will produce something that is more than the rumors surrounding it.

Although involvement at Oak Island is interesting in itself, the overall concept of ancient voyages to America should not be all that surprising. Many cultures of the past produced competent mariners capable of ocean voyages. The Romans, Phoenicians, Chinese, etc., were all probably here at one time or another. Some of them crashed here permanently. Some of them may have made it back and proclaimed, "We found this land out west" to responses of "Meh?" In other cases there may have been some active trade between Africa and South America, for example.

One big problem with finds like this is provenance. Did a Roman expedition actually drop this sword on Oak Island in 50 BC while on a voyage of discovery? Or did the Templars bring it along with them in 1307 as part of their treasure? Hard to say without corroborative evidence so best not to jump to conclusions about who brought it when.

I've read that somewhere, too, but in that story it was the Romans. Is there any evidence for this, though? Where's the proof for this contention?

Thanks for posting. I too was taken in by Oak Island and the mystery that surrounds it. Do you know approximately how far away the shipwreck (where the sword was found), is from the island?

First, I want to preface that I am no expert, yet I do have a decent background in archeology:

My first thought is that it is too ornate to be Roman.

Here is a link to a site on real Roman sword artifacts.

One thing that you already noted, which can be seen in a comparison is that the artifact from the site has a lot more wear on it and age damage.

HereAdded this site, shows almost all the swords archeologist have found from the roman time period. Nothing on that site looks like the sword either. I just don't think it can reliably be called a roman artifact.

A sword like that looks Celtic or perhaps even Viking in origin, which would fit with the real history of Oak Island.

Interesting story, thanks for posting. I would like to see if this really has any validity to it.

I wish they'd kick this series into high gear ffs

Good show but all they do is talk for the most part.

This is sweet with a capital ATS.

I'm a believer in what I call the 'Bering straight Hypothesis' where the seas froze after the ice age and allowed for easier travel That might explain stories about how some artifacts found off the California coast appear to be of Chinese origin. But a roman in a pre Coloumbus America? a tad hard to swallow but I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm sure the Canadian government is trying to decide whether to throw the family in jail or confiscate their worldly possessions. (That's a joke, maybe a half truth

At least the local government backed off of their "renegotiations" and allowed the excavation to continue.

Very interesting indeed! S&F

Could there have been other "ritualistic" or showpiece Roman swords that were used for ceremonies/decoration? Or could it be the sword from someone of a higher rank/class?

That could explain it - the handle appears to have a person/figure on it.

That was one of the frist things I looked for and it seems Romans spent more time decorating the sheath of the sword and not its hilt(Check my second link in 1st post). Roman's even in decorative weapons, keep the hilt practical.

Decorative hafts(handles) are more common with the Celtic tradition of decorative swords.

Still, this is a cool artifact. Can't wait till a real expert does some credible test on the weapon.

My big hope is that it is not a total fake.

Super long time lurker.
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I've been a follower of oak island for 40 years
never did I think of the Romans being there.

it would seems to me now that the Romans may, may have. Then perhaps the tree and pit where actually the result of someone getting the treasure out. Thus tripping the booby traps.

As a child in the 1920s my dad lived in the Northwest Wisconsin. He found a very old Roman or Roman style coin. I can't find it now. He got it while plowing.

The sword itself proves nothing, as it has been removed from its alleged location destroying its provenance there is no way of knowing, if it came from there, or was purchased to make it look as if it came from there, no amount of tests proving it to be a genuine sword can now help with its credibility. I think its rather convenient that its finder has since died.

However, the claim that there is a Roman ship needs investigating it, if true it would rewrite history.
But from what I can see, the only person claiming "Roman ship" is the long dead fisherman, who didn't know anything about Roman ships or swords.
I don't think they will find the ship, so they're going to make all the claims based on a sword which will be meaningless to veracity, but might sell a few more TV episodes
But having a professor of geography along for credibility is hardly useful.

This claim of Hutton Pulitzer stinks of BS

“The shipwreck is still there and has not been worked,” said Pulitzer. “We have scanned it, we know exactly where it lays, but it will be a touchy thing for the Nova Scotia government to allow an archaeological team to survey it. We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is Roman.

They have scanned it, presumably with side scan sonar, which is the last tool in the world which would reveal a ships identity and in the latter part of the quote, he's already formulating an excuse as to why they will be unable to ever dive on it. Because the government won't let them. So I'm calling shenanigans on this
Made up bull# based on a sword which was most likely purchased on the antiquities market

J. Hutton Pulitzer, formerly known as Jeffry Jovan Philyaw, is a fraud and a failure at everything he has done in the past. He makes up extraordinary claims with little to no evidence to back them up.

He was recently on History Channels "The Curse of Oak Island" and, based on his ridiculous performance and the nonsense he spewed, was asked to leave and not return.

Even Scott Wolter, from "America Unearthed" doesn't particularly like him or his theories.

That and the guy just gives me the creeps. Something about him just isn't "right".

Having said that, I am open minded enough to wait and see what this supposed "white paper" he is publishing actually says and what evidence he presents to back up his theories. I do believe that the New World was discovered long before Columbus, perhaps even by the Romans or the Greeks.

Almost Everybody was here before Columbus. Where do you think the abundance of copper was coming from for all those countries. Why are there so many types of Indians here in the USA? Where did the Indians come from, not over the land bridge. Look up the history of the Lenope Indians. They were not from here, they came over the ice from greenland to settle where their relatives lived. Where did their relatives come from, ships of course that settled the Eastern shores and traded with the Indians.

The Ojibwa have genetics from the Gaza Mountains, how did they get here. There were even farmers already settled here in America when the settlers came on in, coming down from Canada. Our whole history is a mess of lies made to make claim to this continent. The Indians spoke old English in vermont, a version generations removed from the old English language.
this is in the history documents of this country.

The English layed claim to the area of the US because they went to court to prove that some of those in their commonwealth had settled there years before. It was the Norwegians who were here long before Columbus and the Old English actually moved to Norway after a natural catastrophe around 600 AD. So the Old English were here also. The Old English were a different people than the anglo-saxons who conquered the sparcly populated England after the place was destroyed. That is in ancient records too. If people actually search for these records before believing what the victors history says, they would find they exist.

Why is it that Columbus discovered America? Because some people of the colonial times who wanted to break away from England, most regular people did not really care. they paid taxes either way. they decided to change history back to Columbus discovering America because Spain was helping them fight the English. The English took Spain to court when they said they discovered America and the international court ruled that England's Norway had rights to it and colonized it very long before. Yes, there are records of this also. So we went to war with Spain after they helped us get away from England. Our forefathers were some unloyal people I guess.

Whoever is the victor makes the history. Oh well, they will have Columbus discovering America in our history books for another twenty years I suppose and Columbus day as a paid holiday as a reward for believing in that deception. We are taught it is rewarding to believe in lies from a young age. Santa, the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, Politicians, etc.

Once again Marduk nails it.

The dagger is all but useless unless you find a matching one or similar in the wreck. Same with alot of the findings, you can drop something you bought out of your pocket and claim to find it all day. You need archaeological context.

The bronze sword shaped object definately looks celtic with the pareidolic hilt. Single cast bronzes are celtic through and through, but Ive seen roman bitz that are similar single cast bronzes, but the figure on the handle was not symetrical

Uh, I'm with you I've been following the COI with great interest.

Not anymore. With the last episode and the half baked nut job claiming that Aztec treasure was buried on Oak Island, I gave up.

There's nothing buried on Oak Island there's no Roman ship wreck and the sword, even if real was planted in the vicinity or some crackpot bought it on the black market and is pedling it from fame.

The real problem with Nova Scotia and that whole area is that those people have absolutely nothing to do except fish and farm 3 months they can. The rest of the time their drunk and make up wild stories about Roslyn Chapel and the Aztecs.


Roman Sword Found Near Oak Island, Nova Scotia May 'Rewrite' North American History [Updated]

An ancient Roman sword discovered off the coast near Oak Island, Nova Scotia is being hailed by Carl L. Johannessen, Professor Emeritus with the University of Oregon, as a find that is set to "challenge the orthodoxy of 1492 as the date when the New World was 'discovered,'" according to Boston Standard.

While it is has become more widely accepted that the Norse visited the North American continent about 1,000 years ago, according to Smithsonian Magazine, Johannessen and researcher J. Hutton Pulitzer believe that Romans may have visited even earlier. Pulitzer believes that a known, but unexplored, shipwreck near Oak Island has Roman origins.

Oak Island, Nova Scotia is home to one of the greatest mysteries on the North American continent, with a history that dates back to at least the late 1700s. The Oak Island "money pit" has produced pieces of gold, non-native to Nova Scotia coconut fiber, stones etched with undecipherable codes, and seeming clues that a great treasure is buried over 200 feet below ground in a cavern that some speculate is man made.

Theories for what may lie at the bottom of the infamous shaft that is currently being excavated by Rick and Marty Lagina and documented in the reality television program, The Curse of Oak Island, on the History Channel abound, ranging from treasure left by pirates to jewels belonging to Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.

Publicly traded companies have been formed, Former U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt actively participated in the hunt for treasure at Oak Island, and was photographed there, according to The U.S. National Archives, and several lives have been lost, since the mystery first became apparent sometime before beginning of the 19th century.

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Other tantalizing pieces of the seeming puzzle include the local indigenous Mi'kmaq population sharing not only DNA markers with Mediterranean populations, but 50 sea-based words used by ancient Roman mariners petroglyphs appearing to depict Romans and the presence of the Berberis Vulgaris bush in Nova Scotia, which was eaten by ancient Romans and used to fight scurvy. The bush is viewed as an invasive species in Canada.

Other artifacts found in Nova Scotia thought to be genuine Roman relics include coins and a Roman shield boss. Some speculate that a Roman shipwreck is located in the Atlantic, near Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, according to the New York Times, and in 1888 a, now long-gone, shipwreck that was found near Galveston in Texas, has been theorized to have had a Roman origin, according to Science Frontiers.

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Upon seeing The Curse of Oak Island on television, the man was said to approach the Laginas and state, "I think you should know about this and where it was found."

J. Hutton Pulitzer is said to have released his early findings on the Roman sword ahead of a full white paper that is expected in early 2016. Pulitzer has appeared on The Curse of Oak Island with the Lagina brothers, and became interested when he learned of about the find.

The Roman sword was found in water reported to have been about 25 feet deep, which Pulitizer feels reduces or negates the chance that the sword could have been brought to North America post-Columbus, then accidentally dropped and left-behind as lost. The treasure hunter feels that if anyone were to actually drop such a valuable relic in such shallow water that they would surely recover it.

Testing of the metal indicates that it shares qualities with Roman swords known to be authentic, seemingly backing its provenance, according to Yahoo News.

Professor James P. Scherz with the University of Wisconsin was quoted with regard to underwater burial mounds located off the shore of Nova Scotia, close to Oak Island, that may be connected.

"I am in agreement the underwater mounds being of a foreign (ancient mariner style) and not native to Nova Scotia or traditional North American. These mounds, in looking at the known ocean levels for the area, give a possible date of occurring between 1500 BC and 180 AD."

"When you put all these things together and you look at the anomalies, it's not a coincidence," J. Hutton Pulitzer summarized. "The plants, the DNA, the artifacts, the language, the ancient drawings - you have something that deserves to be taken seriously."

Pulitzer reportedly fears that with so many political and logistical forces against him, his theory may take a long time to catch on, if it ever does. He is hopeful that both history and politics have "matured" and that people should "fight for the truth." Update -- 6:45 p.m. Sunday, December 20

Reader J. Lawrence tweeted with regard to a replica Roman sword with a similar look to the found sword.

Update -- 12:45 a.m. Monday, December 21

Anthropologist Andrew White, whose LinkedIn profile lists him as "Research Assistant Professor at University of South Carolina," tweeted with regard to his writing that may cast doubt on the authenticity of the Roman sword found near Oak Island.

Andrew White also details a long list of plausible alternate origins of a sword that would resemble a Roman sword, and conditions where comparing the metal of the sword found near Oak Island with a sword thought to be genuinely ancient, could prove problematic. White feels that there is a high probability that the sword used for comparison, as well as the Oak Island sword, may have been replicas produced at many different times, in different parts of the world.

Further, aside from the replica listed on eBay that looks suspiciously similar to Pulitzer's sword, Andrew White has found two more similar replicas: one in Florida and one in California.

"One of the most important things that distinguishes science from pseudo-science is the presence of a mechanism for testing ideas to determine if they are false," Andrew White writes in a blog post. He presents many different ways a fake sword could be compellingly, at least at the surface, appear to be genuine. The motives, possible perpetrators, and beneficiaries of such a plan are ripe for speculation.

Update -- 9:00 p.m. Tuesday, December 22

Since Andrew White published his comments about the Oak Island Roman sword, J. Hutton Pulitzer has contacted the Inquisitr with regard to new writing of his own that addresses some of White's concerns, hosted with Medium.com.

Pulitzer writes that his upcoming white paper has been "peer reviewed" and that it is "supported by the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society." The paper is purported to present evidence that Romans visited North America in the "second century AD or earlier."

"Dozens" of specimens with seeming Roman origins found on or in the area near Oak Island are said to be investigated in Pulitzer's upcoming white paper.

Pulitzer writes with regard to the Roman sword found near Oak Island.

"This sword is a gladiator ceremonial 'votive' sword as verified by the Roman Antiquities authority participating in the study. History shows many such items were given out by the Emperor to legion commanders, possibly as for 'protection, strength, and guidance of hercules' prior to entering into battle or departing on a special mission."

"When such ceremonial swords were made they used solid cast, then hand crafted using a lost wax technique, and lastly gilded with gold like various Egyptian artifacts, making them very rare and highly prized."

The latest article from Pulitzer states that the sword found near Oak Island has been "proved authentic" after the analysis of "Roman Antiquities authorities." Producers of The Curse of Oak Island have reportedly "vetted" the sword for "inclusion" in the series.

Pulitzer's latest reveal about the Roman sword also states that it has magnetic properties and that it will point to "true north," a property that is "only found in authentic items of antiquity, not cast iron or manufactured stone replicas."

Further, Pulitzer writes that the Roman sword is but "1/50" of the body of evidence he has accumulated, which is said to include "DNA, botanical, linguistic, stone symbols, archaeoastronomy, structure and architecture evidence plus other artifacts including coins, but what may be the two most important discoveries — burial mounds and a Roman shipwreck — where the Oak Island sword was found."

Pulitzer states that his teams are working to determine which "Roman legion" the collected artifacts may have come from and why this group of Romans decided to visit North America.